What About Wannsee?

Published: 1998-01-01
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Dear Answerman:

You will find my question combative, no doubt, but I'm curious, nevertheless:

At the Wannssee Conference, the Jews were specifically referred to as "the enemy," and plans were undertaken to remove them to the east. (Hm! China, maybe??) Anyway, here is my question: since Germany had declared war on the U.S. just a few months previously, don't you think the Nazis could have better spent their time planning just how to deal with these (obviously RACIALLY INFERIOR) Americans, rather than planning how to move Jews around? Had I been one of the Nazis, I would have been pretty miffed at seeing a list which told me how many Jews lived in Ireland (not yet – or would it ever be – occupied by us Nazis). I think I would have rather fired off a missive to Der Fuhrer expressing my deep concern that the Americans might do something really nasty in the future like team up with England and burn our cities, whereas most (non-American) Jews at the time were not well trained in aerial bombing tactics. What do you think, Answer Man?

Unless you can clarify this a bit, you aren't going to get past The Great AnswerMan's Pathetic Mail-Filter Flunky. Care to rephrase whatever it is that you're after? His time is valuable, whereas yours and mine is not.

Fawningly,
Iwhoalsoserve


Dear AnswerMan,

Tis, I, Dorothy the Meek, back again to seek some answers from the Mighty Wizard of reViz, whomever he may be!

And my question is again, about Wannsee. This incident is terribly hard to explain away other than by asserting that the minutes from the meeting were faked, which to its credit, the Revisionist movement hasn't done yet.

If the "Final Solution" was indeed only a plan to transfer Jews to the east, then where exactly were they going to be transferred to? The document never identifies a specific region. The sheer numbers boggle the mind, as this document mentions not only Jews in occupied territories, but in countries which never would be occupied.

And what is so "final" about emigration? What guarantee was there that these people wouldn't some day cross over again to the "Lebensraum" of the Germans?

I know the Answer Man probably won't answer my question, but if Revisionists are really serious about who they are and what they're doing, the Wannsee question must be addressed in detail.

Viragoone

AnswerMan!

AnswerMan Replies:

Dear Dorothy,

AnswerMan! sincerely hopes that with your tone you are not expecting him to get you back to Kansas. But, come to think of it, given your impersonation of a gasbag in your earlier query, perhaps you wouldn't need any help.

With regard to the Wannsee Conference of January 20, 1942, AnswerMan! has never had a problem accepting the authenticity of the protocols of that conference. However, what exactly does the document say?

There is nothing in that document about extermination, gas chambers, or anything of the kind. So what's the big deal? It discusses a program of deportation, in which all of the Jews of Europe are deported from Western Europe, sent to transit ghettoes in Poland, and then sent further to the East.

This plan in fact mirrors the documentary reality, which anyone can check for themselves. Tens of thousands of Western Jews were deported, frequently stopping at the transit ghettoes of Lodz and Warsaw, and then, after being deloused in transit camps like Birkenau and Sobibor were sent on to destinations further East: these might comprise ghettoes in cities like Minsk, Kovno, Wilno, Lwow, or Riga, or it might involve assignment to labor detachments behind the German lines.

Of course, these deportations involved loss of life and it seems clear that in some instances the deportees were later shot after arriving at these destinations "further East" — that at least is the import of parts of the incomplete documentary record.

However, this loss of life and these killings is not consonant with a plan to physically exterminate all Jews nor does it have anything to do with the alleged extermination camps in which three million people were supposed to have been gassed and burned.

David Irving has been most successful in locating a very important document, the so called "Schlegelberger Memorandum", which makes it clear that, whatever was discussed at Wannsee concerning the "Final Solution of the Jewish Question", Hitler had decided to postpone the matter until the end of the war by the Spring of 1942 (see Irving's website at http://www.fpp.co.uk  for more details as well as a reproduction of the Schlegelberger memo, the document is also discussed in his recent  Nuremberg: The Last Battle.)

In addition, the purpose of the deportations, as well as the ultimate fate of the Jewish deportees, can be seen in the following order, utilized by both Samuel Crowell and Isaiah Trunk, stemming from June, 1942:

In order to get initial control over the Jews, regardless of whatever measures may be taken later, Jewish Councils of Elders have been appointed which are responsible to the Security Police and Security Service for the conduct of their fellow Jews (Rassengenossen). Moreover, the registration and concentration of the Jews in ghettos have been started.... With these measures, the foundations for the Final Solution of the Jewish Problem — planned for a later time — have been laid in the territory of Byelorussia (Weissruthenien)

Incidentally, the document also supports the contention that Hitler's suspension of the final process came in the early Spring, and that the truly "Final Solution" would ultimately involve deportation outside of Europe, of which concentration in the East was supposed to have been an intermediate stage.

No one is going to pretend that these deportations and concentrations were either just or benign: it seems clear to AnswerMan! that hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, at least, perished in one way or another. But this has nothing to do with extermination claims or gas chambers, much less with a "plan" for "genocide." One could just as easily say that, since millions of Germans died as a result of the expulsion of 14 million Germans from Eastern Europe after the Potsdam conference in 1945 that there must have been a plan to exterminate the German people. Of course, using the logic of traditional Holocaust writers, the fact that there is no written order to exterminate the German people simply proves that such a plan existed.

Again, AnswerMan! does not question this document, but that doesn't make the document automatically valid. Johannes Peter Ney has written an excellent critique of the protocols, on the CODOH site, which clearly suggest some falsification of at least the accompanying documentation of the protocols.

One of the points that Ney makes is that, according to the protocols, the Jewish people were to be gathered up and put to work building roads in "big labor gangs." He expresses skepticism on this point, because, while there is documentation that Jews were pressed into all kinds of labor work, there is no indication that they were used for road building. However, it is interesting to note that Howard K. Smith, in his book, Last Train to Berlin, published a scant seven months after the conference, repeats exactly the same claim about road building (p. 191). Hence we have the unusual situation where the protocols, which were stamped as "Geheime Reichssache!" (Top Secret!), are not corroborated by any known German government documents but are corroborated by a propaganda book published in the United States a few months later. AnswerMan! leaves it to you to figure that one out.

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